25/01/2011 13:13:38
  
Dreeko
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Eyebrows!
import different eyebrow shapes (png with transparencies) onto a backdrop, shrink it down and put it on a characters forehead (a character that has eyebrows removed obviously!) and animate the backdrop image properties and voila facial animation
although the character has to be static (in a pose) for obvious reasons!
cheers
D
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25/01/2011 13:47:36
 
Emily
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Hahaha! Nicely done dreeko, very inventive!!
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25/01/2011 13:50:57
claireq
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Haha I love it! Dreeko the Muvizu work around King! 
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25/01/2011 14:07:16
freakmoomin
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even with that simple test it shows how powerfull seperate facial animation can be.......
fingers crossed we get it soon!
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25/01/2011 15:03:50
Neil
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So we don't need to bother doing facial animation now? Cool, we can get on with that octopus instead. 
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25/01/2011 15:09:42
claireq
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don't forgot the dragon!
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25/01/2011 15:19:45
KerryK
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clever girl...
edited by KerryK on 25/01/2011
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25/01/2011 15:56:10
Dreeko
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Neil wrote:
So we don't need to bother doing facial animation now? Cool, we can get on with that octopus instead.
No chance!
Eyebrows down for that one!
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25/01/2011 20:43:00
mysto
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That's a very clever way of doing things! Top shelf Dreeko!
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25/01/2011 21:36:32
jonbez
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Haha Nice one dreeko. 
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25/01/2011 22:36:40
ziggy72
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Finally, we can animate Spock AND Roger Moore!
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25/01/2011 23:39:32
Dreeko
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It's a handy technique for different facial expressions until there is an update to muvizu which includes a facial animation system
If the muvizu eyebrows had the ability to be animated in a similar manner to the image switching I've shown as well as having a movement animation option for raising and lowering individual brows and also as a pair. Add to that a better control system for the eyelids - fully open/closed, rapid to zero blinking, and pupils that go all the way from one side of the eyeball to the other then the happy/sad/angry etc states would take care of the mouth side of the expression and it would be all there as far as I can see for an animation system for the face
Thoughts?
D
edited by Dreeko on 25/01/2011
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26/01/2011 00:02:23
mysto
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Dreeko wrote:
It's a handy technique for different facial expressions until there is an update to muvizu which includes a facial animation system
If the muvizu eyebrows had the ability to be animated in a similar manner to the image switching I've shown as well as having a movement animation option for raising and lowering individual brows and also as a pair. Add to that a better control system for the eyelids - fully open/closed, rapid to zero blinking, and pupils that go all the way from one side of the eyeball to the other then the happy/sad/angry etc states would take care of the mouth side of the expression and it would be all there as far as I can see for an animation system for the face
Thoughts?
D
edited by Dreeko on 25/01/2011
That pretty much sums it up. It's on my "want" list.
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26/01/2011 10:14:30
artpen
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Goodstuff dreeko, this workaround is perfect for a close up front shot.
I think also a brow control slider (up-down) gizmo would give fantastic results.
Think Wallace&Grommit!, where Grommit uses the brow only, very good emotion
And very funny.
I think a brow slider control gizmo would work like dream for our ardman style
Characters.
Bring it on Muvizu, you know it makes sense
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26/01/2011 13:00:47
Dreeko
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Here's another test
Managed to do a bit of movement to the brows this time and they move independently of each other
the effect could be better if i had more time to spend on it today but i think it shows potential.....thoughts?
(1 backdrop per brow)
cheers
D
edited by Dreeko on 26/01/2011
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26/01/2011 14:07:03
barrys
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That's a nice idea, Dreeko. You'll be pleased to hear that the facial animation system is something on our to-do list. Honestly, I'm looking at the list right now: it's a massive cardboard sheet covered in wee cards arranged next to the year's release dates.
The pub-chat phase of the design work's already started. We've not got to the stage of plans and documents yet and, to be honest, that's not going to happen for a bit, but I thought you'd like to know.
Thanks for stirring the debate. I like it.
Barry
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26/01/2011 14:28:44
Emily
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It's a nice little cheat for our impatient users!
I noticed another little trick that I may share here...
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26/01/2011 16:34:31
Dreeko
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barrys wrote:
That's a nice idea, Dreeko. You'll be pleased to hear that the facial animation system is something on our to-do list. Honestly, I'm looking at the list right now: it's a massive cardboard sheet covered in wee cards arranged next to the year's release dates.
The pub-chat phase of the design work's already started. We've not got to the stage of plans and documents yet and, to be honest, that's not going to happen for a bit, but I thought you'd like to know.
Thanks for stirring the debate. I like it.
Barry
Glad you like the idea Barry
I've been thinking for a while about what the facial animation system might be like, considering the desire to keep muvizu as user friendly as possible but still be as intuitive as we (the more demanding users) would desire it to be.
I'm sure whatever form it takes will move muvizu yet again to another level
I remember the ever expanding wall of to-do post it notes from my visits to muvizu and can I apologise in advance for all the suggestions still to come which may take the peak of the mountain even higher!
Thanks again to all who have the crazy task of trying to convert the suggestions of me and others into some kind of coherent reality
Cheers
D
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26/01/2011 16:43:06
Dreeko
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Emily wrote:
It's a nice little cheat for our impatient users!
I noticed another little trick that I may share here...
Speaking as one of muvizus foremost impatient users I have to say....
TELL US ALL EMILY!!!!!
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27/01/2011 15:12:08
Emily
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Ok ok time to spill the beans...now if you look very closely at the end of this animation, you might notice some subtle facial animations...
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